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HWI smutstone guild (general talk)

Postby lujtg75 » January 19th, 2022, 1:56 am

Pavel;

Here are my thoughts though you might not like them. I believe that we have 2 basic options at this point regard where we go with
HardwareInsights.

Option 1. We can stick it out and see if we can keep out top 50 position. Or if we lose it we can see if we can recover it in Season 22. Getting rid of blabla11
should bring us down to a more manageable weight class, but we still need to add an 8th team and work with them to see if they work out.

Option 2. We can abandon HardwareInsights and move our 3 teams over to HItest88. I have the medals and am about ready to spend some of them to make sure
that HItest88 stays in the top 50.

Option 1:

Pros: a. You get to to continue on with HardwareInsights.
b. We can continue to support the dependable players on HardwareInsights. Most notably Tayhara and srgiv.

Cons: a. If we do not make top 50 it may be very hard for us to recapture and move back into the top 50. We may need a little luck with getting
to face teams that will allow us to score well. And we may even need to back off a season or two before we can break back into the top 50.
b. We will have to deal with integrating in a new Team member. lujtg75 will stay with HItest88 until that is accomplished.
c. You will have to continue to be available for a lot of Rounds to place the Flag. And since we will still be in the 70+K Marauder territory,
each War will continue to be a grind to get the best score possible. Not as bad as it is now with GooseEm and the other Guilds with their
very active snipers, but still a long row to hoe.


Option 2:

Pros: a. We are all pretty sure of getting our 5 Eleven Queen dups here in Season 21. I have not spent any medals yet, but I am about to do so.
b. We will be moving down a couple of weight class to around the 60K Marauder strength. We should still have some pretty active Guilds to
compete against to get good scores, but they will not be as powerful, nor will they get as high a percentage of their troops placed as we
are currently seeing. Instead of 4.2 Million Raw troop power for our guild it will be more like a little over 3M, I am guessing.
c. You will not need to be available for some of the Rounds. We will depend a little more on you for Rounds 3, 6, and 9, and if you can
pitch in sometimes for 1, 4, and 7 that would be great. Especially if there is heavy late sniping occurring.
d. This will speed up my testing of whether it is possible for us to get to the top 20. I need some weak teams to add to HItest77. Then I can test
to see whether or not I can transfer medals from one Guild to another. I suspect that this is what some of the top Guilds are doing. Not the Gem
mining that Wanderer2020 always talked about. That would require hundreds of alt accts. I may be able to get away with just 8 alt accounts on
HITest77 to see if I can transfer over some 160K medals a season. I am not sure if that is enough. But it is close to what is needed extra to make
top 20. I really think that we might need 300K extra just to be sure. That might mean that we could be top 20 every other season.

Cons: a. HardwareInsights would go the way of the Dodo bird. blabla11 would become Guildmaster and within a couple of season the other team members
would probably jump ship.
b. We would be really letting down Tayhara (not a real good player, but our first and always dependable) and srgiv who I believe is very good and
dependable player. There is also 1 of the Big hitters that plays well and sends out concise attacks usually. But I am not sure that they are always playing
the game when we need them.


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I am in a Chicago suburb. Hence it is 3:54AM here. I got up to be a spoiler to team MightyHarddicks who were in 50th place going into round 6. Now after I took two center squares from them and a couple of other cells as well. They are in 53rd place 34 points out of 50th place. I think I might be able to drop them one more place in round 7. Small joys in life. Not sure anyone else on the team I am on have any troops left. They threw them all away early on. Wasted them in many cases. I used up lujtg76, but held my troops in lujtg74 until round 6. Now I am going to see how much damage I can do to MightyHarddicks, ignoring the other 2 teams. Might even even be able to pull Spartans (that is the Spartans with a Capital "S", there is another spartans with a small "s", we are now in 73 place.) into first place in this War. Currently we are 9 points behind MightyHarddicks in the War. So, my first priority is to take MightyHarddicks down a notch and my second priority is to win this War for the medals.

What did I do. Well I have a masters in Mathematics. But for work I was in Telecommunications. I started off as a software engineer. But for the last 15 years that I worked, I was a problems solver. I did a lot of overseas work in the far East, when new switching systems went in to make sure they were up and running properly. I have been retired now for more than 20 years. They made me an offer I could not refuse, as they said in the Godfather. So, I retired at the ripe old age of 45.
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Re: HWI Smutstone guild

Postby Behemot » January 19th, 2022, 8:21 am

Could only dream about retiring anytime, I'll likely die in work (or from hunger, unable to work any longer; whichever comes first). The more socialists screw everything everywhere you look at, and the more expensive everything gets as a result (everything which is not yet forbidden I may add), the lesser chances are I'd be able to create a firm or something which may live by itself; it's one-man-show for now. Within last year, inflation is 5-10 % officially, and at least double that unofficially. I've also learned the other day they made another bailout in them US of A, just managed to hide it from you ppl. They printed and put into pockets of Black Rock and similar corporations another few trilion US dollars last year alone, you knew?

Hope that destroying things does not make you too much happy, that's not a healthy attitude :mrgreen:

Anyways, since I managed to do pretty much nothing today and needed to get more material before they close (plus I have rock wool and dust everywhere :-o), I'm back earlier so I'll be here for this round as well.

Reading your latest messages: Yeah it has been previously established in that smustone wiki discussion they can land into those 4 cells held by enemy from the side they started from, that's why I've put some forces there in the morning, to keep them from doing that.
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Re: HWI smutstone guild (general talk)

Postby lujtg75 » March 21st, 2022, 9:09 am

Historical Tracking of HardwareInsights Season War ResultsL


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 2 War 2 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th

1: 2160 2160
2: 4680 6840
3: 7380 14220
4: 5040 19260
5: 5580 24840
6: 5280 30120 61.9K 33.0K
7. 6780 36900 79.5K 29.2K
8. 5760 42660 85.3K 28.8K
9. 6540 49200 91.8K 25.9K


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 2 War 3 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position
Start 96.3K 39.4K

1: 1200 1200
2: 2820 4020 102.9K 45.3K
3: 4500 8520 107.4K 45.5K
4: 7560 16080 114.9K 42.1K 115
5: 5220 21300 120.1K 43.5K 110
6: 8640 29940 128.8K 39.0K
7. 7440 37380 136.2K 35.0K 97
8. 9180 46560 145.4K 29.7 89
9. 9720 56280 155.1K 27.3 79

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 2 War 4 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position
Start 162.1K 35.6K

1. 2160 2160 164.3K 39.5K
2. 4440 6600 168.7K 38.3K
3. 4560 11160 173.3K
4. 4380 15540 177.7K 41.1K
5. 3000 18540
6. 5040 23580 185.7K 42.5K
7. 5580 29160 191.3K 41.5K
8. 4620 33780 195.9K 43.7K
9. 6660 40440 202.6K

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 2 War 5 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position
Start:----------------------204.6K------50.7K

1.----3120------3120-----211.1K------57.0K (Note: the Total includes the points for babble74 promoting Elven Bow to 1* this seem to be 4500 when it should be 3000?)
2.----5040------8160-----219.1K-------------(Note: Includes 3000 for purchase of Newt Trident lujtg74)
3.----3000-----11160-----222.1K
4.----7200-----18360-----229.3K-----53.0K
5.----5820-----24180-----235.1K-----53.3K
6.----4920-----29100-----240.1K-----51.8K
7.----4680-----33780-----244.7K-----54.7K
8.--10020-----43800-----254.8K-----48.6K
9.----6960-----50760-----261.7K----45.7K

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 2 War 6 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position

Start:----------------------261.7K------56.0K

Update Start:------------265.2K------56.0K

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position

1.----3120-----3120
2.----3840-----6960
3.----4860----11820
4.----5940----17760-----285.6K-------62.1K (Includes points for improving Heaven Hammer to 2*s I am assuming 4500 points)
5.----7980----25740-----294.5K-------61.0K
6.----5280----31020-----299.7K-------60.0K
7.----6660----37680-----306.4K-------57.0K
8.----8280----45960-----314.7K-------53.2K
9.----6000----51960-----324.2K-------58.3K (Note: it was 51K right after the War, Tayhara I think spent his 3500 medals, and I believe a lot of the top 50 spend all.)

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 2 War 7 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position

Start:----------------------324..2K------58.3K

Update Start:------------324.2K-------63.5K

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position

1.------3120----3120------327.3K------63.5K
2.------5340----8460------336.1K------62.1K (include what babble74 spent in the Shop, I believe 3500 medals)
3.------1740---10200------337.8K------
4.------4740---14940------342.6K------70.2K
5.-------660---15600
6.------3240---18840------346.6K------71.9K
7.------9060---27900------355.6K------66.3K
8.------7800---34920------363.7K------67.2K
9.------4140---39840------367.6K------64.9K Final position 80th Place.

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 3 War 1 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position

Start:------------------------3.5K-------------29.5K (Note: the 3.5K at the start is from babble74 improving Demonic Axe to 1*)


Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position Season Ranking

1.------2160----2160---------5.6K------36.0K-------------------------------430 (includes what babble74 spent in the Shop, I believe 3500 medals)
2.------4980----7140--------10.6K------37.8K-------------------------------277
3.------4200---11340-------14.8K-------37.4K-------------------------------282
4.------6480---17820-------21.3K------37.7K--------------------------------231
5.------3180---21000-------
6.------2100---23100--------------------
7.------1020---24120--------------------
8.-------960---25080---------------------
9.-------360---25440--------28.9K------61.0K-------------------------------354


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 3 War 2 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position Season Ranking

Start:------------------------34.3K-------63.9K (Note: the 3.5K at the start is from babble74 improving Newt Trident to 1*)


1.------3120----3120--------37.4K------62.5K-------------------------------310
2.------5880----9000--------43.3K------61.0K-------------------------------292
3.------2940---11940-------46.2K-------63.7K-------------------------------293
4.------4920---16860-------51.2K------64.9K--------------------------------279
5.------3060---19920-------54.2K------67.9K--------------------------------279
6.------7740---27660-------62.0K------66.9K--------------------------------250
7.------8580---36240-------70.6K------
8.------7440---43680-------78.0K------61.7K--------------------------------213
9.------5280---48960-------83.3K------62.4K--------------------------------203


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 3 War 3 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position Season Ranking

Start:------------------------86.8K-------78.3K 224 (Note: Includes 3500 points spent by Tayhara)


1.------3120----3120--------89.9K------81.0K-------------------------------224
2.------2520----5640--------92.4K------?????K-------------------------------????
3.------3420----9060--------95.8K------83.6K-------------------------------230
4.------6360---15420------102.2K------82.1K-------------------------------218
5.------7380---22800------109.6K------?????K--------------------------------????
6.------4320---27120------113.9K------81.2K-------------------------------200
7.------9060---36180------122.9K------78.9K-------------------------------188
8.------6660---42840------129.6K------77.7K-------------------------------184
9.------7500---50340------137.1K------79.2K-------------------------------184 Note: The drop in the distance from 50th is due to other teams spending medals.

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 3 War 4 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position Season Ranking

Start:-----------------------????K-------?????K


1.------3120----3120-------143.7K------82.2K-------------------------------180
2.------5040----8160-------148.8K------81.6K-------------------------------176
3.------3780---11940-------152.5K-----84.3K-------------------------------176
4.------7260---19200-------159.8K-----84.7K-------------------------------174
5.------6600---25800-------173.4K-----74.6K-------------------------------151
6.------7500---33300-------180.9K-----72.9K-------------------------------144
7.------9540---42840-------190.4K-----67.7K-------------------------------140
8.------4680---47520-------195.1K-----68.3K-------------------------------138
9.------5820---53340-------200.9K-----68.9K-------------------------------137

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 3 War 5 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position Season Ranking

Start:-----------------------207.9K-------66.7K This includes the 7000 medals that babble74 and Tayhara spent


1.------2160----2160-------000.0K------00.0K-------------------------------000
2.------1680----3840-------211.8K------73.9K-------------------------------141
3.------1860----5700-------213.6K------78.1K-------------------------------141
4.------9780---15480-------223.4K-----72.1K-------------------------------137
5.------6120---21600-------229.5K-----71.4K-------------------------------134
6.------8040---29640-------237.6K-----69.7K-------------------------------129
7.------6960---36600-------244.5K-----71.0K-------------------------------123
8.-----11520---48120------256.1K-----64.9K-------------------------------115
9.------4980---53100-------261.0K----66.9K-------------------------------118

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 3 War 6 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position Season Ranking

Start:-----------------------264.5K-------72.6K-------------------------------122 (This includes 3500 Medals that Tayhara spent after the conclusion of War 5)

1.------2160----2160-------267.7K------71.0K-------------------------------118
2.------5160----8280-------272.8K------71.4K-------------------------------120
3.------4620---12400-------277.4K------69.2K-------------------------------119
4.------8460---21360-------285.9K------67.9K-------------------------------115
5.------7980---29340-------297.4K------64.8K-------------------------------108 (This includes 3500 Medals that babble74 spent to improve ghost dagger)
6.------3720---33060-------301.1K------71.2K-------------------------------115
7.------4800---37860-------305.9K------67.4K-------------------------------112
8.------4500---42360-------310.4K------71.0K-------------------------------113
9.------4320---46680-------314.7K------70.0K-------------------------------116


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 3 War 7 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position Season Ranking

Start:------------------------317.7K------80.1K-------------------------------122 (This includes 3000 Medals that someone spent after the conclusion of War 6)

1.------3120----3120-------324.3K------80.2K-------------------------------117 (This includes 3500 Medals that Tayhara spent to upgrade Ghost Dagger)
2.------5100----8220-------329,4K------80.5K-------------------------------116
3.------6300---14520-------335.7K------77.8K-------------------------------114
4.------6000---20520-------000.0K------00.0K-------------------------------48
5.----10920---31440-------437.8K-----+16.1K-------------------------------44
6.------7500---38940-------445.3K-----+14.5K-------------------------------44
7.------6540---45480-------451.8K-----+16.6K-------------------------------43
8.------4140---49620-------455.9K-----+14,1K-------------------------------42
9.------7000---56820-------463.1K-----+18.5K-------------------------------41
10.End +7 hours -----------463.1K-----+12.2K-------------------------------42 So, 1 team has passed us, but the distance has closed by 6.3K points. 17 more hours left.
11.End +12 hours-----------467.1K-----+14.2K-------------------------------41 Includes 4K spent on Demonic Axe.
12.End +19 hours-----------470.6K-----+12.6K-------------------------------40 Includes another 3.5K spent by babble74
13.End +23 hours-----------470.6K-----+12.6K-------------------------------40
14.End +23:45 hours-------470.6K-----+12.6K-------------------------------40
15.End +23:55 hours-------470.6K-----+12.6K-------------------------------40

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 4 War 1 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points behind 50th Position Season Ranking

Start:-----------------------000.0-------00.0K


1.------3120----3120---------17.6K------31.0K-------------------------------156
2.------3000----6120---------20.6K------32.2K-------------------------------170
3.------5520---11640---------26.1K------32.3K-------------------------------153
4.------6300---17940---------32.4K------29.3K-------------------------------145
5.------2580---20520---------35.0K------35.6K-------------------------------154
6.------3540---24060---------38.5K------35.9K-------------------------------189
7.------4560---28620---------43.1K------38.0K-------------------------------189
8.------1920---30540---------45.0K------42.4K-------------------------------223
9.------6240---36780---------51.2K------41.2K-------------------------------206


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 4 War 2 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:--------------------------51.2-------50.1K ------------------------------232

1.------3120----3120---------92.9K------21.2K-------------------------------74
2.------5520----8640---------98.4K------19.7K-------------------------------73
3.------7560---16200--------108.6K-----13.4K-------------------------------65 (Includes 2700 medals that babble74 spent on Demonic Axe. Not enough to promote it.
4.------6300---22500--------114.9K-----12.8K-------------------------------61
5.------8100---30600--------123.0K-----10.1K-------------------------------58
6.------8220---38820--------131.3K-------6.9K------------------------------55
7.-----10680---49500-------141.9K-------2.4K-------------------------------51
8.------7440---56940--------149.4K------00.0K------------54.2K-----------50
9.------5280---62220--------154.7K-------2.7K------------62.4K-----------51

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 4 War 3 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------164.0K-------5.7K-----------63.0K-------------56 (Includes 3500 medals spent by babble74 and 3500 medals spent by Tayhara, and I spent 2240 to get Elven Bow to 3*s)


1.------3600----3600--------167.6K-------6.2K-----------65.3K-------------54
2.------2640----6240--------170.2K-------8.4K-----------68.9K-------------55
3.------1500----7740--------171.7K------12.3K----------72.7K--------------57
4.------3300---11040-------175.0K------14.0K-----------75.0K-------------61
5.------3300---14340-------178.3K------16.6K-----------75.9K-------------72
6.------4920---19260-------183.2K------15.6K-----------75.4K-------------77
7.------3840---23100-------187.0K------???.?K-------------------------------???
8.------9840---32940-------196.9K------19.7K-----------73.5K-------------78
9.------8040---40980-------204.9K------21.4K-----------73.5K-------------75

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 4 War 4 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------207.6-------22.3K -----------------------------79 (Includes 2700 Medals spent by Tayhara on Newt Trident)


1.------2160----2169--------213.1K-----19.9K-------------85.4K-----------79 (includes 2700 Medals spent by babble74 and 600 by lujtg76 to get Newt Trident to 3*'s)
2.------5160----7320--------218.3K-----21.1K-------------84.8K-----------78
3.------5700---13020-------224.0K------22.4K------------86.6K-----------78
4.------3240---16260-------227.2K------23.8K------------87.2K-----------84
5.------6960---23220-------234.2K------26.0K------------86.5K-----------82
6.------3180---26400-------237.3K------33.2K------------89.0K-----------85
7.------8820---35220-------246.2K------33.3K------------86.4K-----------81
8.------6720---41920-------252.9K------31.2K------------90.3K-----------81
9.-----11340---53280-------264.2K------24.1K------------84.4K------------74



Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 4 War 5 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------267.7K--------33.2K---------101.3K-------------80 (Includes 3500 spent by Tayhara on Ghost Dagger still 2500 short, I will spend 2500 if babble74 does not do so shortly. Then I will take the Battle Banner to 3*s as well. We will need all the help we can get this War against ULTIMATE)


1.------2640----2640--------279.9K--------24.0K----------91.6K-------------74 (Includes 3500 spent by lujtg75 to bring Ghost Dagger up to 3*s and 7000 for BB to 3*s)
2.------1380----4020--------281.4K--------27.0K----------93.7K-------------78
3.------1200----5220--------282.4K--------33.9K--------100.7K-------------78
4.------5880---11100-------288.3K--------35.4K----------99.6K-------------79
5.------7860---18960-------299.7K--------29.8K----------91.1K-------------76 (Includes 3500 spent by babble74 on the Demonic Axe)
6.------4740---23700-------304.4----------32.5K----------91.6K-------------79
7.------6840---30540-------311.3K--------30.6K----------94.7K-------------77
8.------8760---39300-------320.0K--------30.2K----------91.2K-------------76
9.------5280---44580-------325.3K--------30.7K----------91.2K-------------77

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 4 War 6 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------329.3K-------32.5K ----------107.9K---------76 (Includes 3500 Medals spent by Tayhara on Demon Axe and 500 by lujtg75 to get it to 4*s)


1.------3120----3120--------335.9K------31.0K-------------105.4K---------74 (Includes 3500 Medals spent by babble74 on Demon Axe towards 5*s)
2.------6780----9900--------342.7K------29.5K-------------104.1K---------71
3.------3480---13380-------346.2K------32.2K--------------107.6K--------75
4.------8760---22140-------354.9K------30.8K--------------104.8K--------73
5.------6120---28260-------360.1K-------???.?K------------???.?K-----------74
6.------7020---35280-------368.1K-------36.1K------------102.1K---------73
7.-----10800---46080-------378.9K-------34.4K------------98.1K----------68
8.------7440---53520-------386.3K-------35.6K------------98.1K-----------65
9.------7140---60660-------393.5K-------35.4K------------97.9K-----------64

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 4 War 7 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Keep in mind in the Season 50th Place ended up being 458K points here in Season 4 50th place at the end of War 7 is already at 493.7K or 35.7K higher than Season 3 at the end of the 24 hour peace time when the Awards were awarded based on placing.

Start:-------------------------430.5K---------3.1K----------79.3K-------------54 (Includes 3500 spent by Tayhara , 3500 spent by babble74, 15000 spent by lujtg74 and 15000 spent by lujtg76)


1.------2160----2160--------432.6K---------3.0K----------82.2K-------------54
2.------3720----5880--------436.3K---------??.?K----------???.?K--------------??
3.------7260---13140-------443.6K---------3.6K----------82.7K--------------54
4.------8160---21300-------451.8K---------4.0K----------79.4K--------------53
5.------6240---27540-------458.0K---------7.9K----------84.5K--------------55
6.------4140---31680-------462.1K--------10.1K----------84.0K--------------55
7.-----11160---42840-------473.2K---------??.?K----------???.?K--------------??
8.------4680---47520--------479.9K---------??.?K----------???.?K--------------??
9.------8460---55980--------486.4K---------7.3K----------94.0K--------------55
10.End +0 hours ------------497.9K--------+4.2K----------82.5K--------------47 I spent 11.5K to bring the Fire Rune up to 2*s.
11.End +7 hours ------------497.9K---------5.5K----------85.2K--------------51
11.End +14 hours-----------497.9K---------5.5K----------86.2K---------------51

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 5 War 1 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:---------------------------67.1K-------???.?K ----------???.?K---------97


1.-----3120-----3120-----------3.1K--------23.0K-----------66.2K---------316
2.-----6000-----9120---------16.3K-------16.9K-------------67.3K---------110 (Includes 7000 medals spent by babbl74 and Tayhara)
3.-----5880----15000---------22.2K-------16.3K-------------67.7K----------101
4.-----5280----20280---------27.5K-------19.0K-------------68.0K----------115
5.-----7080----27360---------34.6K-------18.2K-------------66.7K----------100
6.-----6720----34080---------41.3K-------19.8K-------------70.6K----------97
7.-----7380----41460---------48.7K--------15.4K------------69.8K----------92
8.-----6060----47520---------54.7K--------16.1K------------67.7K----------87
9.-----7380----56400---------63.6K--------12.3K------------66.7K----------66



Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 5 War 2 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:---------------------------67.1K-------???.?K ----------???.?K---------97 (Includes 3500 medals spent by Tayhara)


1.-----1200-----1200---------68.3K-------31.5K-------------78.2K---------99
2.-----5700-----6900---------74.0K-------30.4K-------------86.0K---------97
3.-----6300----13200--------80.3K--------24.9K------------81,4K----------90
4.-----4440----17340--------84.4K--------26.7K------------81.4K----------92
5.-----4380----21720--------88.8K--------???.?K-------------???.?K---------????
6.-----7080----28800--------95.9K--------19.6K------------89.1K----------88
7.-----9780----38580-------105.7K--------17.4K------------87.0K----------84
8.-----3540----42120-------109.2K--------???.?K--------------???.?K---------????
9.-----9300----51420-------118.5K--------20.2K------------89.2K----------76


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 5 War 3 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:---------------------------122.0K-------???.?K ----------???.?K--------?? (Includes 3500 medals spent by Tayhara)


1.-----3120-----3120--------125.1K-------35.6K------------95.7K---------94
2.-----5040-----8160--------130.2K-------37.5K------------96.3K---------92
3.-----4680----12840--------134.9K-------48.0K----------100.3K---------99
4.-----9420----22260--------144.3K-------54.5K----------115.5K---------98
5.-----6720----28980--------151.0K-------53.7K----------148.0K---------95
6.----10440---39420---------161.4K------50.0K-----------148.6K---------90
7.-----5520---44940---------167.0K-------46,6K-----------149.1K---------91
8.-----7800---52740---------174.8K-------???.?K-------------???.?K---------???
9.----12060---64080--------186.8K-------41.2K-----------149.5K---------84


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 5 War 4 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------193.8K-------???.?K ----------???.?K---------?? (Inc. 3500 spend by trumplo for Ghost daggers to 1* & 3500 by Tayhara for Battle Banner 1*)


1.-----4080-----4080--------197.9K-------???.?K------------???.?K---------??
2.-----5280-----9360--------203.2K-------57.5K-----------165.0K--------83
3.-----1560----10920--------204.7K------64.3K------------164.9K--------92
4.-----5160----16080--------209.9K------87.0?K-----------165.4K-------117
5.-----5940----22020--------215.8K------88.4K------------167.1K-------119
6.-----7200----29220--------223.0K------89.6K------------167.6K-------116
7.-----5160----34380--------228.2K------91.3K------------168.4K-------119
8.-----8040----42420--------236.2K------92.1K------------166.6K-------115
9.----10380----52800--------246.6K------88.1K------------158.4K-------109


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 5 War 5 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:---------------------------250.1K-------91.8K --------177.1K-------114 (Includes 3500 medals spent by Tayhara)


1.-----3120-----3120--------?????.?K-------???.?K-----------????.?K---------???
2.-----3960-----7080----------257.2K------92.7K----------184.2K--------119
3.-----4980----12060-------?????.?K-------???.?K-----------????.?K---------???
4.-----7200----19260---------269.4K-------96.3K---------186.4K---------118
5.-----9000----28260---------278.4K-------98.9K---------182.2K---------113
6.-----3540----31800---------281.9K------107.0K---------182.9K---------115
7.---10200----42000----------292.1K-----103.2K----------178.9K---------112
8.-----6420----48420---------298.5K-----102.2K----------179.8K---------112
9.-----9420----57840---------308.0K------95.3K-----------176.0K---------108


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 5 War 6 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:--------------------------250.1K--------91.8K--------177.1K--------114 (Includes 3500 medals spent by Tayhara)


1.-----3120-----3120--------?????.?K-------???.?K-----------????.?K---------???
2.-----5400-----8520--------324.5K-------97.7K----------190.3K---------105
3.-----6660----15180--------331.1K-------99.0K----------187.5K---------102
4.-----4380----19560--------335.5K-------???.?K-----------????.?K---------???
5.-----3300----22860--------338.8K-------???.?K-----------????.?K---------???
6.-----8580----31440--------351.9K------100.6K----------178.5K--------101
7.-----6420----37860--------358.3K-------???.?K-----------????.?K---------???
8.----12720----50580--------371.0K------97.7K-----------173.6K---------98
9.-----9420----60000--------380.5K-------93.2K----------172.1K---------97


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 5 War 7 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:--------------------------487.5K-------+5.2K --------75.9K---------47 (Includes 107K medals spent. After the start of Main Phase)


1.-----4080-----4080---------491.5K---------.2K-----------83.3K--------51
2.-----5880-----9960--------517.4K------+21.5K-----------84.4K--------38
3.-----8400----18360--------526.2K------+22.7K----------83.4K---------36
4.-----4560----22920--------530.8K-------???.?K-----------????.?K--------???
5.-----8340----31260--------539.1K-------???.?K-----------????.?K--------???
6.-----8040----39300--------547.2K-------+21.3K---------80.1K---------38
7.-----7200----46500--------554.4K-------+21.1K---------134.9K--------39
8.-----9780----56280--------564.1K-------+22,7K---------136.2K--------38
9.----10860----67140--------575.0K-------+26.7K---------135.4K-------36


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 6 War 1

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

1.-----3120-----3120-----------3.1K-------???.?K-----------????.?K---------41
2.-----3060-----6180---------13.2K---------+.4K-----------18.8K---------45
3.-----1800-----7980---------15.4K---------3.9K-----------23.6K---------95
4.-----7620----15600---------23.1K---------2.1K-----------24.0K--------102
5.-----7080----22680---------30.1K---------2.8K-----------21.5K---------98
6.----11400---34080---------41.5K---------3.2K------------15.9K---------73
7.-----6360----40440---------47.9K--------+.4K------------14.0K---------34
8.-----5040----45480---------52.9K--------4.7K------------15.8K---------70
9.---14160----59640---------67.1K---------1.5K------------1.5K----------57


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 6 War 2

Round Scoring Total -----Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:---------------------------79.1K-------+6.8K---------------21.6K---------28 (Includes 3500 medals spent by each of Tayhara and kaguahi. 5000 spent by lujtg78)

1.-----4080-----4080----------83.2K-------+8.7K---------------14.6K---------27
2.-----5400-----9480----------88.6K-------+9.3?K--------------13.7K---------28
3.-----7860----17340---------96.4K--------+10.4K-------------13.4K---------27
4.-----7260----24600--------103.7K--------+8.3K--------------16.0K---------28
5.-----5040----29640--------108.7K--------+5.3K--------------16.9K---------30
6.-----5280----34920--------114.0K--------+3.9K--------------17.7K---------48
7.-----6600----41520--------120.6K---------+.9K--------------19.4K---------49
8.-----6360----47880--------127.0K----------2.0K-------------19.0K---------52
9.-----7860----55740--------134.8K--------+2.5K--------------20.0K---------48


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 6 War 3 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:--------------------------159.8K-------+12.3K -------12.4K---------27 (Included about 25K Medals spent to get the Battle Banner 1* and all Tier 1 items 2*s)


1.-----4989-----4080---------?????.?K-------????.?K----------????.?K--------???
2.-----6120----10200---------170.0?K-----+13.3K----------11.9K---------25
3.-----7740----17940---------179.1K------+15.8K-----------9.0K---------24
4.-----5640----23580---------183.4K------+14.1K----------14.2K---------25
5.-----5460----29040---------194.4K------+17.8K-----------9.8K---------23
6.-----3840----32880---------198.2K------+14.6K----------11.5K---------24
7.-----7320----40200---------205.5K------+15.7K-----------9.2K---------35
8.-----8580----48180---------214.1K------+15.0K-----------5.5K---------37
9.----12180----60960---------226.3K------+17.8K-----------1.8K---------33


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 6 War 4 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:--------------------------244.3K-------+22.4K ---------3.3K---------21 (Includes 7000 medals spent by Tayhara and kaguahi for Runes and 11K that I spent)


1.-----4080-----4080---------248.4K-------+24.8K-----------5.8K---------21
2.-----5280-----9360---------253.7K-------+24.7K-----------7.5K---------21
3.-----5940----15300--------259.6K--------+23.0K-----------3.1K---------21
4.-----9720----25020--------269.3K--------+26.0K----------+5.3K--------20
5.-----4860----29880--------274.2K--------+24.8K----------+3.8K--------20
6.-----7440----37320--------281.6K--------+24.2K-----------2.4K--------21
7.-----6240----43560--------287.9K--------+20.2K-----------9.5K--------22
8.-----9540----53100--------297.4K--------+21.2K-----------6.8K--------23
9.-----7620----60720--------305.0K--------+19.5K-----------4.6K--------34


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 6 War 5 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:--------------------------315.0K-------+17.1K -------20.8K----------29 (Includes 10000 medals spent between kaguahi, Tayhara, and myself)


1.-----4080-----4040---------319.1K--------20.1K----------60.9K---------70
2.-----3960-----8160---------329.6K--------19.0K----------54.0K---------66 (includes 6500 medals that I spent)
3.-----4620----12660--------334.3K---------18.8K---------56.4K---------66
4.-----7320----19980--------341.7K---------18.8K---------55.9K---------64
5.-----5760----25740--------347.4K---------18.7K---------57.0K---------65
6.-----6300----32040--------353.7K---------???.?K----------???.?K---------??
7.-----6240----38280--------360.0K---------19.2K---------62.0K---------73
8.----10800----49080--------370.8K--------18.4K----------61.3K---------65
9.----11160----60240--------381.9K---------14.5K---------62.9K---------62


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 6 War 6 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------414.6K----------7.6K --------58.2K---------54 (Includes 32.7K Medals spent.)

1.-----4080-----4080--------418.7K----------3.8K --------54.1K---------52
2.-----6360----10440-------425.0K----------1.1K----------48.6K---------52
3.-----7800----18240-------432.8K----------1.3K----------48.6K---------51
4.-----6660----24900-------439.5K----------1.6K----------50.1K---------53
5.-----4080----28980-------443.6K----------5.3K----------55.7K---------57
6.-----6240----35220-------449.8K----------5.5K----------57.9K---------57
7.-----6960----42180-------456.8K----------7.2K----------60.4K---------57
8.----11400----53580-------468.2K---------4.6K----------60.0K---------52
9.-----8520----62100-------476.7K---------1.3K-----------56.5K---------52


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 6 War 7 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------507.9K--------+4.5K --------50.5K---------46 (Includes 31.2K medals spent)

1.-----4080-----4080--------511.9K--------+6.3K --------48.6K---------45
2.-----5520-----9600--------517.5K--------+8.3K --------46.6K---------45
3.-----9120----18720-------526.6K---------+9.4K----------45,2K---------45
4.-----5280----24000-------581.9K--------+54.8K---------+2.2K---------19
5.-----9060----33060-------590.9K--------+54.2K-----------0.0K--------20
6.-----8280----41340-------599.2K--------+53.3K----------2.3K---------22
7.-----6600----47940-------605.8K--------+48.7K----------0.0K---------21
8.-----5940----53980-------613.8K--------+49.3K----------2.1K---------21
9.-----6000----59880-------619.5K--------+44.5K----------8.9K---------25

T-23H:35M------------------637.0K---------+61.9K--------+8.6K---------19 (Includes 17500 medals spent by the lujtg's)
T-14H:20M------------------644.0K---------+44.6K---------7.4K----------24 (Includes 7000 medals spent by Behemot2077 and kaguahi)
T-10H:00M------------------644.0K---------+44.6K---------7.4K----------24
T-7H:00M-------------------644.0K----------+43.7K-------16.2K----------25
T-4H:55M-------------------644.0K----------+41.2K-------16.2K----------26
T-0H:41M-------------------647.5K----------+42.6K-------15.3K----------27 (Includes 3500 medals spent by Tayhara at around the 4H mark)
T-0H:18M-------------------647.5K----------+42.6K-------15.3K----------27
T-0H:10M-------------------654,2K----------+46.(k--------8,6K-----------24


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 7 War 1 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:--------------------------22.5K---------+22.5K ------+12.0K--------10

1.-----4080-----4080---------26.5K---------+20.4K -------+7.2K---------16
2.-----2880-----6960---------30.9K---------+19.8K -------+7.1K---------17
3.-----7560----14520-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
4.-----3970----18490-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
5.-----8100----26580-------55.0K---------+7.4K----------17.6K---------44
6.-----7680----34260-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
7.-----8480----42840-------71.3K---------+8.3K----------15.0K---------???
8.-----6660----49500-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
9.-----6960----56460-------84.9K---------+6.0K----------23.2K---------46


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 7 War 2 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------107.4K---------+.8K ---------28.0K---------43

1.-----4080-----4080--------????.?K---------???.?K --------????.?K---------???
2.-----6000----10080--------????.?K---------???.?K --------????.?K---------???
3.-----7080----17160-------130.6K-------+10.4K----------19.0K---------38
4.-----6360----23520-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
5.-----9960----33480-------146.9K--------+7.0K----------22.7K---------39
6.-----7080----40560-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
7.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
8.----12120---60360-------173.8K---------+2.6K---------26.4K---------37
9.-----9060----69420-------182.8K----------.3K----------29.4K---------51


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 7 War 3 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------211.8K---------+1.0K -------26.6K---------45

1.-----4080-----4080--------215.8K---------+3.2K -------24.6K---------38
2.-----5880-----9960--------221.8K---------+5.7K -------22.3K---------33
3.-----4290----14880-------226.7K---------+3.2K---------25.5K---------36
4.-----5160----20040-------231.9K----------.9K----------28.1K---------54
5.-----6700----26940-------238.8K---------4.1K----------31.1K---------61
6.-----9660----36600-------248.4K---------5.3K----------32.5K---------62
7.-----5340----41940-------253.8K---------10.0K---------37.2K---------69
8.-----7740----49680-------261.5K---------12.6K---------40.2K---------70
9.----11400----61080-------272.9K--------12.4K----------39.4K---------66


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 7 War 4 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------297.4K---------16.7K --------46.6K---------71

1.-----4008-----4080--------301.4K---------???.?K --------????.?K---------???
2.-----6120----10200--------307.6K--------12.2K --------42.2K---------67
3.-----6660----16860-------314.3K---------13.1K----------43.5K---------70
4.-----7260----24120-------321.5K---------13.7K----------46.1K---------71
5.-----6000----30120-------327.5K---------19.6K----------50.0K---------74
6.-----7140----37260-------334.7K---------23.3K----------54.1K---------77
7.-----4800----42060-------339.5K---------28.7K----------60.7K---------79
8.-----7020----49080-------346.5K---------28.5K----------58.5K---------83
9.-----8340----57420-------354.8K---------24.5K----------60.9K---------80


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 7 War 5 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th-----20th----- Season Ranking

Start:------------------------365.3K-------40.3K --------78.1K-----------98 (We still have 21K medals to spend)

1.-----4080-----4080-------369.4K--------37.7K -------76.2K-----------97
2.-----6120----10200-------375.5K--------37.5K -------73.7K----------94
3.-----6480----16680-------389.0K--------32.1K--------68.2K----------86 (Includes 7K medals spent)
4.-----5820----22500-------394.8K--------35.0K--------72.3K----------90
5.----10980----33480-------405.8K--------34.1K--------71.3K----------89
6.-----6900----40380-------412.7K---------35.6K--------75.5K---------89
7.-----6660----47040-------419.4K--------40.5K---------78.9?K--------95
8.-----8580----55620-------428.0K--------42.5K---------73.1K---------87
9.-----7620----63240-------435.6K--------39.9K---------80.8K---------83


Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 7 War 6 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------477.6K---------25.5K --------60.6K---------73 (All medals have been spent by all players so this is a true picture of our position.)

1.-----4080-----4080--------481.7K---------23.6K --------68.7K---------71
2.-----5520-----9600--------487.2K---------21.7K --------67.8K---------69
3.-----5760----15360--------492.9K--------22.0K----------68.8K---------69
4.-----7260----22620--------500.2K---------???.?K----------????.?K--------68
5.-----7440----30060--------507.6K---------25.7K---------73.5K---------69
6.-----5460----35520--------513.1K---------33.0K---------79.2K---------69
7.----11160----46680--------524.3K---------28.7K---------75.5K---------65
8.-----7680----54360--------531.9K---------24.4K----------73.2K--------63
9.----10080----64440--------542.0K---------16.1K----------69.2K--------60

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 7 War 7 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------567.3K---------14.3K --------75.2K---------59

1.-----4080-----4080--------574.9K----------8.8K --------78.7K---------54 (Includes 3500 Medals spent by Behemot
2.-----5880-----9660--------580.8K----------6.5K --------81.3K---------52
3.-----6960----16920--------587.7K----------7.7K---------82.5K---------54
4.-----7200----24120--------594.9K----------8.3K---------85.3K---------55
5.-----5640----29760--------600.6K----------8.2K---------88.5K---------58
6.-----6180----35940--------606.8K---------12.5K---------93.4K---------59
7.-----6300----42240--------613.1K---------16.8K---------90.3K---------61
8.-----6600----48840--------619.7K---------18.7K---------86.4K---------60
9.-----9960----58800--------629.6K---------13.2K---------83.4K---------58

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 8 War 1 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:---------------------------0.0K---------11.6K----------60.0K---------???

1.-----3120-----3120----------3.2K---------25.3K --------59.0K---------256
2.-----5280-----8400----------8.4K---------25.6K --------57.4K---------180
3.-----2880----11280--------11.2K---------29.8K----------62.8K---------355
4.-----5220----16500--------16.5K---------30.3K----------67.2K---------416
5.-----5580----22080--------22.0K---------28.9K----------71.8K---------408
6.-----4200----26280-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
7.-----6900----33180--------33.1K---------36.7K----------81.8K---------381
8.----10020---43200---------43.6K---------30.5K----------82.6K---------335
9.----10560---53760---------54.1K---------27.4K----------84.1K---------211

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 8 War 2 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------79.1K----------6.7K --------62.7K----------61

1.-----4080-----4080--------83.1K----------6.2K --------60.9K----------58
2.-----6240----10320--------92.6K----------2.4K --------55.5K---------51 (Includes 3.3K medals spent by Behemot2020)
3.-----5460----15780--------98.3K----------5.0K----------57.8K---------52
4.-----6480----22260-------104.8K---------7.3K-----------60.7K---------55
5.-----5760----28020-------110.6K--------18.5K----------65.7K---------81
6.-----7260----35280-------117.9K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
7.-----7920----43200-------125.8K---------33.8K----------69.9K---------97
8.-----5820----49020-------131.6K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
9.-----7440----56460-------139.0K---------37.3K----------80.6K---------83

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 8 War 3 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------163.5K---------34.7K --------107.4K---------62 (This does not include lordchess's 3500 medals that they have not spent yet.)

1.-----4080-----4080--------171.9K---------28.4K --------101.1K---------61 (Inlcudes lordchess's 3500 medals.)
2.-----6240----10320--------177.3K--------26.6K----------99.6K-----------60
3.-----7380----17700--------184.7K--------26.2K---------100.0K----------60
4.-----5580----23280--------190.3K--------30.7K---------104.5K----------60
5.-----9840----33120--------200.1K--------31.8K---------104.7K----------62
6.-----4440----37560--------204.6K--------38.4K---------111.3K----------67
7.----10860----48420-------215.4K---------35.7K---------110.6K---------67
8.-----5400----53820-------220.8K---------???.?K----------????.?K----------67
9.-----6540----60360-------227.4K---------51.0K----------123.5K---------70

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 8 War 4:

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------251.9K---------35.5K --------114.5K---------63 (Note: lordchess has not spent their 3500 medals yet.)

1.-----4080-----4080--------256.0K---------33.3K --------117.6K---------64
2.-----6120----10200--------262.3K---------30.6K --------118.2K---------64
3.-----7680----17880--------270.0K---------30.9K----------117.1K---------63
4.-----3540----21420--------273.6K---------35.5K----------117.7K---------64
5.-----6600----28020--------280.2K---------41.4K----------125.9K---------75
6.-----8520----36540--------288.8K---------46.4K----------125.9K---------74
7.-----5640----42180--------294.4K---------46.8K----------132.2K---------74
8.-----9600----51780--------307.6K---------39.1K----------126.3K---------71
9.-----9480----61260--------317.1K---------34.8K----------124.6K---------70

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 8 War 5 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------342.0K---------35.3K -------103.2K---------64

1.-----4080-----4080--------349.6K---------29.9K --------94.7K---------62
2.-----6000----10080-------355.6K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
3.-----7620----17700-------363.2K---------26.7K----------96.6K---------62
4.-----4980----22680-------368.2K---------28.8K---------100.5K---------62
5.-----4980----27660-------373.2K---------33.7K---------105.9K---------65
6.-----9360----37020-------382.5K---------34.8K---------108.5K---------63
7.-----8400----45420-------390.9K---------34.7K---------108.5K---------63
8.-----5820----51240-------396.7K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------61
9.-----6360----57600-------403.1K---------50.6K---------113.5K---------63

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 8 War 6 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------427.6K---------35.8K --------131.0K--------60 (lordchess has yet to spend their 3500 medals)

1.-----4080-----4080--------431.7K---------33.9K---------131.9K--------60
2.-----6000----10080--------441.2K---------28.0K---------126.8K--------60
3.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
4.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
5.-----6900----26100-------457.2K--------40.3K----------????.?K---------???
6.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
7.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
8.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
9.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???

Position tracking of Hardwareinsights for Season 8 War 7 :

Round Scoring Total Season Points Back of 50th----20th---- Season Ranking

Start:-------------------------508.2K---------31.1K--------139.6K---------60

1.-----0000-----0000--------????.?K---------???.?K --------????.?K---------???
2.-----0000-----0000--------????.?K---------???.?K --------????.?K---------???
3.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
4.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
5.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
6.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
7.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
8.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
9.-----0000----00000-------????.?K---------???.?K----------????.?K---------???
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Re: HWI smutstone guild (general talk)

Postby lujtg75 » March 21st, 2022, 11:06 am

Analysis of Season 3 scoring to get into the Top 50.

First of all at the end of the Season we had scored 470.6K points which placed us in 40th position 12.6K ahead of 51st place.

During the season we scored the following points in the 7 Wars: 25440+48960+50340+53340+53100+46680+56820=334680 points

We (a guild of 6 members) took 1 second place in the Wars and 6 first places got the following medals: (2700*6)+(3500*6*6)= 142200

Also by coming in the top 50 each team got another 3750 each for a total of"(3750*6)=22500 medals.

Since the medals equate to points if spent, effectively we earned 334680+142200+22500= 515580 points in Season 3.

That means despite spending medals to get to 40th place. We had a net profit of medals in Season 3 of almost 45,000 medals.

Hence we start Season 4 with almost 45,000 more medals than we started Season 3.

The Following is my observations regarding the spending of medals at the end of Season 2, for teams going for top 20 and top 50 positions in order to get 5 or 10 duplicates of the new Arcane Card. Please note that this is what I observed for Season 2. Clearly, starting with Season 3 there may be more teams that have saved away Medals to move up in the standing at the very end. As the seasons progress, it may become more and more of strategy to save medals to make pushed at the very end to get the Arcane Card duplicates.

I checked things out at 3 times in the end of War 7 process.

1. During during the Battle Phase once points were awarded for Round 9.
2. 30 minutes after the battle phase once Medals were awarded and could be spend to move up in the standings.
3. At 2:55 Minutes after the Battle phase. (5 minutes before the Season standings were Frozen and Arcane Elven Queen Duplicates were awarded)
4. At 2:59 Minutes after the Battle phase. (1 minute before the Season standings were Frozen and the Arcane Elven Queen Duplicates were awarded)

End Round 9----+30 Minutes--+2:55---+2.59

20---531.6K---------534.4K----556.5K--556.5K
45---442.9K---------445.8K----450.1K--450.1K
50---432.4K---------434.4K----436.7K--436.7K
55---421.6K---------421.6K----430.1K--430.1K
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Re: HWI smutstone guild (general talk)

Postby Behemot » March 22nd, 2022, 8:32 am

yeah just quickly looking it through, it seems correct

as to your idea of getting the banner upgraded, are you sure it can bring that much? I think it's like 20 % bonus on a cell, plus as you mentioned, increasing our overall troop power through the preceding bonuses would place us against better guilds, if they are too tough, we'd get less points for capturing less cells, and also less medals for worse results in particular wars

on the other hand, we can try it, in worst case we'd have to use more medals to get within 50th place, which we should have so it's should not be like, missing the 50th spot if things do not go as planned
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Re: HWI smutstone guild (general talk)

Postby lujtg75 » March 25th, 2022, 7:43 am

As far as better Guilds that is an unknowable question. More powerful in terms of troop strength, yes. That is true, but that does not make them better Guilds, just more powerful. But since we are more powerful as well, that is a wash and we break even.

However, if the Battle Banner is used correctly and fully, it does not count against your troop strength and hence is a bonus for us. If the other guilds do not have the Battle Banner or if they do have it, but are not using it as effectively, then that is a plus for us. However, if we do not have it and the other Guilds do have it then the reverse is true they have a decided advantage.

Regarding those questions I ask in the War thread, there is a reason for asking them. As I told you, I was a software tester and problem solver in an earlier life. (before retirement) That is just part of who I am and in my opinion, I was the best that our SP500 company had as far as International Switching Systems were concerned.

So, I am trying to figure out if there is what we use to call (when the customer spotted something) an "enhanced feature" or some times we called it a "trial feature" associated with the Battle Banner. Any reasonable person would call it a "bug", but we never called something a "bug" if the customer liked it and wanted to keep it for "free".

I really want to know if there is a "way", (process set of steps) that can be taken to get the Battle Banner bonuses on multiple cells during the same Round of the War. I am pretty sure that that was not intended, but it is one possible explanation to what we saw against ULTIMATE in the last War.
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Re: HWI smutstone guild (general talk)

Postby Behemot » March 25th, 2022, 9:53 am

what you saw was cached information about currently deployed troops on a cell, which appear to be downloaded from the server every minute (maybe not even that often when it is overloaded just before battle) and short of reloading the whole game, there is no other way how to force the app to refresh the values - other than putting some troops there yourself; in that moment, it HAS to interchange data with the server and provide updated data

so what looks as if they were using bots, is most likely the game is not able to keep up with changes, enemy guilds putting troops to cells some time before you did, but you get updated values only when you put troops there as well

banner could not be moved, once you place it, it stays there for the whole round, and I think the bonus power is not displayed, but is counted-in during battle phase (as well as the 50% color bonus itself is on elemental towers)
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Re: HWI smutstone guild (general talk)

Postby lujtg75 » March 25th, 2022, 12:39 pm

Yeah, I figured the trick of sending a troop to very what is really there many wars ago, so the only way to make sure that you have the correct information in the last minute of the war regarding what the enemy has sent to a cell is to send a single troop there (preferably a single troop that is not in a set) Sometimes when I am sniping with a main set that is what I do at the 50 second mark, and then I go back and quickly choose the main set and send it on its way to the cell. I can do that in about 15 seconds on the PC. On the phone not nearly as fast. I have also been known to send the troop from the Phone if I am sniping with several sets at once from the PC. Since choosing several sets takes a lot longer. So, I queue them up on the PC, knowing exactly what Power I am sending. Then I send a troop from the phone to verify that what I have Queued up is enough before send them.
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Re: HWI Smutstone guild (war thread)

Postby lujtg75 » July 14th, 2022, 1:24 am

If the Single Guild for the Guild matching and battles and 8 guilds to collect the medals does not make sense to you. I can write up
a detailed step by step procedure to explain it. The reason to use an extremely weak guild for the Guild Master and then for the
battles is that it is easier to match up many guilds with the same relative strength of 55K +/- 5K. But like I said the draw back is you
are limited in the number of cards that you can have ~85 +/- 5 cards.

Consequently, you have to preserve your cards in the first couple of rounds and let the 2 helper guilds do the hard lifting initially. You
score a little in the first 2 rounds. Something like 2K and 3K, but then starting in Round 3 you get 10K to 12K a round for the Primary
and Secondary Guilds for Rounds 3 through 8. Then in Round 9 the primary guild gets 13K+ and the Secondary guild gest 3K.

I have not worked out all of the details, nor have I actually performed this my self, so there could be some issues (errors) with what
I am saying. But at a high level this is what is going on. The primary guilds are targeting for the top 20. (though they do not all make it
there) The secondary Guilds and the lower scoring Primary guilds then eat up all of the rest of the top 80 or so guilds.

If you could match up guilds with a higher strength and card count, you could add an extra 5K to 6K of scoring for you primary and
secondary guilds. Because you have more cards and can get more points in Rounds 1 and 2, and exchange a few more cells between
the primary and secondary Guilds in Rounds 3 through 8. Instead of 2 center cells, 2 tower, 4 center access cells and 2 corner cells
a round which total to 10 high scoring cells taken each round by the primary and secondary Guilds. Which I believe comes out to 8640
per round, plus how many ever home cells that they each own at 60 points a home cell. Say another 480 each for a total of 9120 points
each for Rounds 3 through 8.

I need to work out the theoretically exact scoring. But any any case it would work out to some 3K to 4K more than the best War that
we have ever had, I believe. Wanderer2020 has quoted a number, that I do not have off of the top of my head here and now. It is
difficult to reach that theoretical number every war, but you can sure come close.
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Re: HWI Smutstone guild (war thread)

Postby lujtg75 » July 14th, 2022, 1:35 am

But the bottom line is if you had stronger guilds matching up with more cards for each, then you could also be exchanging home cells as well.
I doubt that any of these shadow guilds are doing that though. Too much work to build up the stronger guild strengths, and more difficult to
ensure that you control all 4 guilds in the War.

It only takes one non-cooperating guild in the group of 4 to throw a huge monkey wrench into the works. If that happens then the 2 of the guilds
have to team up to take out (or at least limit) the non-cooperating guild. That limits tremendously what the Primary Guilds can score, since it does
not have the full time assistance of the helper guilds. Probably takes 10K to 15K off of their score for the War. Possibly more. And it is a lot more
work.

If you can control all 4 guilds. It is a 45 minute job per Round to do everything that you need to do. And you can do it at your leisure during the
Main Phase. After all if you control all 4 guilds there are absolutely no surprises.

But with just a single guild that you do not control, then you have have to be active for the entire Prep Phase to take actions. So, you still spend
the 45 minutes in the Main Phase, but then you have to spend another 30 minutes considering what the non cooperating guild might do. And then
on top of that you have spend close to 45 minutes of the Prep Phase acting and reacting to the non cooperating guilds actions. Just too much like
real guild wars. And no guarantee of a good score.

And, I have though of some things that can be done, that I doubt that the Shadow Guilds are doing.
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