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Rebuild?

Postby LongRunner » October 31st, 2013, 12:58 am

My current PC is built out of the following:

CPU - Celeron 336, with stock cooler (which gets loud when pushed)
Motherboard - Intel D945GTP (VRM gets hot and fuxx0rs certain RAM addresses)
RAM - 4 * Apacer 512MiB DDR2-533 (a.k.a. "PC2-4300" though that should really be "PC2-4266")
HDDs - 2 * WD800JD-00LSA0 (quiet, no problems to date) and 1 * ST31000528AS (firmware CC38) (noisy, used for large files that aren't as frequently accessed)
Optical drives - Lite-On SHM-165P6S and Sony CRX320EE
PSU - Hipro HP-D3057F3H with capacitors and fan replaced
Case - made by AOpen, but I don't know which model; pathetic fan grilles (the type with lots of small round holes)
Fan - NMB 3110SB-04W-B40-E00, installed in one of the exhaust fan positions (with the original grille broken away and a wire grille installed - far better airflow this way)

The motherboard would be the first target, as it doesn't work the way it should. A better case would also be nice - preferably with a bigger fan (not two in parallel) and support for at least four HDDs.

If I get something like a WD3200KS, I may consider double-partitioning it and swapping it in place of the two 80GB drives, but it's unlikely that I will. I don't intend on getting an SSD any time soon as the internet connection is the real slow part.

The installed OS is Windows XP Home SP3. I'll say more when I want to.
Information is far more fragile than the HDDs it's stored on. Being an afterthought is no excuse for a bad product.

My PC: Core i3 4130 on GA‑H87M‑D3H with GT640 OC 2GiB and 2 * 8GiB Kingston HyperX 1600MHz, Kingston SA400S37120G and WD3003FZEX‑00Z4SA0, Pioneer BDR‑209DBKS and Optiarc AD‑7200S, Seasonic G‑360, Chenbro PC31031, Linux Mint Cinnamon 20.3.
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Re: Rebuild?

Postby c_hegge » October 31st, 2013, 2:34 am

Erm, yeah, that is getting a little old now. P4-based Celerons were underpowered 10 years ago. If I see such a CPU in a user's PC today, It just gets upgraded to at least a P4, no questions asked.
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Re: Rebuild?

Postby Wester547 » October 31st, 2013, 9:58 pm

What was the original fan in the Hipro and what did you replace it with (unless you mean the Minebea)? Did it push less or more air with the original fan, if you remember?
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Re: Rebuild?

Postby LongRunner » October 31st, 2013, 10:54 pm

The NMB mentioned in the first post is the case fan. The replacement fan in the PSU is almost the same, but the next higher speed rating.

I don't remember how much (or little?) air the Superred fan moved.
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Re: Rebuild?

Postby shovenose » November 16th, 2013, 11:26 pm

Holy sh*t that's old :D
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Re: Rebuild?

Postby Wester547 » November 27th, 2013, 8:00 pm

(with the original grille broken away and a wire grille installed - far better airflow this way)
You mean you can feel more airflow from it this way, or does it just allow more heat to be exhausted out of the chassis (I assume the latter)?
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Re: Rebuild?

Postby LongRunner » November 27th, 2013, 8:20 pm

Wester547 wrote:
(with the original grille broken away and a wire grille installed - far better airflow this way)
You mean you can feel more airflow from it this way, or does it just allow more heat to be exhausted out of the chassis (I assume the latter)?

The former.
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A plan...

Postby LongRunner » March 7th, 2014, 2:11 am

I'm thinking of something along the lines of either the budget or mid-range configuration here, but continuing to use the same old HDDs.

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I have to ask, though: Why does every case (that I've seen) with a front fan have that fan right up against the grille/filter??? As it's easy to demonstrate that doing so is very bad for noise.

I also plan on getting a new mouse, as the old unbranded one I have now is a bit wonky, and preferably a laser type — like this one, perhaps? (Along with a mouse mat to go with it, as I don't have one now.)
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Re: Rebuild?

Postby c_hegge » March 10th, 2014, 12:34 am

The Hardware secrets review didn't say that the plastic parts were especially bad on the PS08, just that they weren't as good as what you would see in a more expensive case. TPU actually said that construction quality was one of the PS08's highlights. I can't imagine it being worse than the Antec VSK3500.

If you don't mind getting the case from a different retailer (and paying for the extra freight), then you could get one of these (http://www.i-tech.com.au/products/16342 ... LACK_.aspx) and not worry about a PSU.
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Re: Rebuild?

Postby LongRunner » March 10th, 2014, 2:15 am

Fair enough, then. But the thing about quality, for me, is that I'm not content with leaving it at "good enough". It's not that I'd plainly avoid that case but I wouldn't have given it a gold award. No doubt it's as good as they can do at the price but given the choice, $10~20 for better seems (to me at least) more than fair. That said, given the other drawbacks to what you suggested, I'm probably not going to bother. It's not that I blame Silverstone necessarily — it's just the real world, isn't it? (i.e. not as good as it could be)
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