While there are two types of PSUs out there – linear and switching/switch-mode power supplies (or SMPSs).
(although the primary side rectifiers are typically rated for a much higher voltage)
With the switch closed, one side if the incoming AC voltage is connected in between the caps. This charges one for the caps during the positive half-cycle and the other in the negative half cycle.
The value of [the bleed/divider] resistors is not absolutely critical. A lower value allows more charge to flow between he capacitors, but reduces the efficiency slightly. Values of between 100K and 220K ohms are typically used.
[Low power factor] occurs when devices don’t draw current completely in sync with the AC cycles, resulting in only part of the AC cycle being properly used.
Ideally, the fuse should blow, but in many cheap units, the fuse is rated much higher than it needs to be. This can lead to high voltage and high amounts of current continuing to be fed into the shorted transistor, which causes it to explode.
If the transformer core is overloaded, it goes into what is known as saturation, which often damages the switchers, causing them to fail as if the switchers themselves were being overloaded.
…most standby supplies do have both capacitors.
LongRunner wrote:The "while" no longer makes sense.
LongRunner wrote:As I mentioned before (perhaps you missed it), there's no rule that Y-capacitors have to be ceramic (or that X-capacitors have to be plastic film). See for example Vishay MKP338 6 Y2. In many aspects, the film types are superior, but ceramics cost less and generally work well enough for small sizes.
LongRunner wrote:The sub-classes usually used are X2 (pulse tested to 2.5kV) across-the-line and Y2 (pulse tested to 5kV) from line-to-earth, though some units have X1 (pulse tested to 4kV) capacitors across-the-line (occasionally even a mixture of X1 and X2, with no explained purpose); Y1 capacitors (pulse tested to 8kV) are used across the isolation barrier in "double insulated" switching supplies (albeit rather foolishly, as explained here).
LongRunner wrote:Also, you forgot to mention that there needs to be a bleeder resistor (typical value of 330k—1M), ideally controlled by a CAPZero IC, to discharge the X capacitors after the unit is unplugged and prevent the user from getting a shock from the plug/inlet pins.
LongRunner wrote:To be specific, the bare minimum is 400PRV, but almost everyone prefers to play it safe and use 600PRV (or more), even most of the junk manufacturers (I suppose the cost difference is negligible, though).
LongRunner wrote:There's a bit of a typo:With the switch closed, one side if the incoming AC voltage is connected in between the caps. This charges one for the caps during the positive half-cycle and the other in the negative half cycle.
Should be "of", "of", and "on" respectively
Fixed the first bit. Disagreed on the second bit. The blue is not that dark. I can easily read it standing a few meters back from my desk.LongRunner wrote:A bit of clarification: The absolute value isn't critical, but it's essential that both are equal. (Of course, there is the odd junk PSU that just doesn't care about following this rule; I believe one was mentioned on Badcaps.net.) And regarding the illustration you made, black text on a deep blue area is very hard to read, so I suggest that you change it to white.
LongRunner wrote:That is the case for reactive (primarily inductive) loads (such as a traditional magnetic-ballasted fluorescent lamp, or a lightly loaded induction motor or mains transformer), but switching supplies aren't reactive loads (and can't be, because the rectifier prevents any current from going back into the grid) — instead, they draw a highly distorted current waveform (I did link to an explanation — perhaps I didn't draw enough attention to it).
LongRunner wrote:I'm curious about this one. Based on my calculations, the correct fuse rating (for the full input voltage range) would be around 2~2.5A per 100W out for a low-efficiency unit without PFC (so 4 or 5A for 200W, 6.3 or 8A for 300W, etc.).
LongRunner wrote:That's a common misconception; the truth is here. (Well, I would guess that the feedback in a SMPS would cause the flux density to be nearly constant. But not actually being a SMPS engineer, that'll have to do.) In any case, at switching frequencies the flux density can't even approach saturation without excessive eddy current losses.
LongRunner wrote:Also, it looks like you missed this tidbit from one of my previous posts:…most standby supplies do have both capacitors.
Anyway, let's soldier (or solder? ) on…
c_hegge wrote:The blue is not that dark. I can easily read it standing a few meters back from my desk.
Maybe if the efficiency was only 50%. If the NTC thermistor is well chosen, you shouldn't have to go that high.
By that rule, we would need a 16A fuse for 800W and a 20A fuse for 1KW. The mains is only capable of 15A in the US (and 10A here). Such a fuse would be pointless as the breaker in the household would trip before the fuse blows.
c_hegge (in the article) wrote:Y1 capacitors should never be used, as they can actually feed interference back into the earth on the mains.
LongRunner wrote:It is on my monitor (a Dell U2713HMt).
LongRunner wrote:The fuse is affected by the power factor, so with a typical power factor for no PFC, the fuse rating needs to be around 50~70% (or about 2 steps on the standard rating sequence) higher than for a unity power factor (all else being equal).
LongRunner wrote:It's their use across double insulation that causes the problems. Using them with an earth connection (as is required for Y2 caps) is alright. The point is, it's not the capacitors themselves at fault — it's how they're used.
c_hegge wrote:I know. I have changed that to "should never be used in this application".
(which should ideally have a small resistor in parallel with them to discharge them when power is disconnected)
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